ATF Madden? - Page 3

Stoke · 08-16-2009, 05:10 AM

Ive had moderate success playing solo so far.

Ghryphen · 08-16-2009, 11:09 PM

I played two games in complete failure. I'm going to be someone's stat fodder.

Stoke · 08-17-2009, 05:33 AM

I saw where the Iggles had you down 7-0 in the 2nd last nite... I didnt check back after that. I lost in overtime to the Cowpukes but spanked the Patriots and the Dolphins pretty hard yesterday.

There were a couple of questionable things that happened during the ass whipping I took from Silver though. He runs a fumble back almost the whole length of the field only to have the call reversed. Then I clearly was in the end zone but the refs decided that I never crossed the plane. Bastards.

SilverTalon · 08-17-2009, 05:51 AM

The reversal was probably correct, because it seemed like he was down before the red fumble thing came up. The bug where I still got credit for the TD on the recap was amusing though...I wonder if that actual impacts the results tho since it's happened twice (tho in both games it was a matter of academics).

The real bitch of that "no TD" was that it was 4th down and I agree, you got robbed...it looked like he fell into the end zone well before anything hit the ground. Wouldn't have mattered of course, but you should have had a lower margin of defeat than Skillet had.

I don't know why I'm helping you all beat my ass (Skillet was literally one play from victory on his last attempt), but here's some things that have helped me be successful:

Long passes are a good way to lose normally. Keep your routes short and to the point. Only throw the long ball when you know you have a pattern that will work.
Mis-matches are very important for passing. Skillet got gutted because the Eagles are difficult to match up with across the board. Know which of your players is better at their job than their opponent. For the Eagles, this is the RBs and their third and fourth receivers. This is generally who I'm looking for on patterns. My #1 and #2 ranked receivers are much harder to throw the ball to since they have the best corners on them.
Even though you may have 4-5 receivers on a play, pick two...preferably on the same side of the field. Scope the one you think is most likely to be open, if he looks covered dump it off to the other. If both are covered, throw it away or scramble. As you get better, you might be able to include a third receiver. Looking across the field for receivers is a good way to take sacks. Just like the real NFL, you only have about 5-6 seconds to make your throw. It's there or it isn't.
Adjust at the line, it makes you brutal to play against. See a blitz coming? Hot route a receiver to a slant or a post and burn it big. Skillet finally figured out to play dime against you? Switch to a run and blast through the DBs.

I expect to sustain multiple losses now.

Also, here's how I *THINK* our little group is shaping up:

Silver - Los Eagles
Gryphon - Seachickens
Stoke - Panties
Dane - Vikings or Dolphins most likely (although picking an AFC team will make for a lonely and boring season methinks)
CB - Falcons
Skillet - ??? Saints?

So the NFC South looks to be hotly contested (read: people want to play Stoke twice)...the rest not-so-much

Stoke · 08-17-2009, 06:15 AM

I find that if the name of the play contains the word SLANT, I have a higher completion percentage.

SilverTalon · 08-17-2009, 06:28 AM

Until your opponent has a press blitz going.

Disrupts the timing and puts too much pressure on the QB to be reliable. Slants are timing routes, so jamming the receivers can really disrupt it.

Problem is that it's a gamble like all blitzes. If they miss the jam they'll be horribly out of position and if the QB connects it's a 20+ yard gain. There's some zone coverages that are effective too, but you really have to commit to stopping the slant for it to work (Note: this is an excellent idea against the Eagles when I'm playing them.

I run quick slants from 3-4 different formations and hot route them often because they are a PITA to defend against).

CannonBall · 08-17-2009, 08:28 AM

The 360 Elite is rumored to be in for a price reduction on 8/31. I'll pick it up then.

Stoke · 08-17-2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoke

I find that if the name of the play contains the word SLANT, I have a higher completion percentage.

I'm speaking in terms of playing against the CPU.... all bets are off against real live people pushing the buttons.

SilverTalon · 08-17-2009, 11:32 AM

Variations of slants is pretty much all I ran against you and skillet with the occasional dump-off to a RB.

Stoke · 08-17-2009, 06:01 PM

I played some random online person a bit ago. I suck enough that during the game, he was sending me vulgar trash talking messages.

Stupid 13 year olds.....

Moomoomoo · 08-17-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoke

I played some random online person a bit ago. I suck enough that during the game, he was sending me vulgar trash talking messages.

Stupid 13 year olds.....

Welcome to Xbox Live stoke

SilverTalon · 08-18-2009, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moomoomoo

Welcome to teh Internets stoke

Fixed.

Danerune · 08-18-2009, 04:26 AM

I will be taking on all challengers tonight my gamertag is Jim Danks. This sounds fun yay!

Stoke · 08-18-2009, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTalon

Fixed.

Not saying it was unexpected. I found it quite amusing actually.....

SilverTalon · 08-18-2009, 05:46 AM

I'll be trying to set up the franchise tonight...so we'll see how that goes.

08-16-2009, 05:10 AM	#31
Stoke Seahorse PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina Old Folks Home Age: 57 Posts: 4,041 WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? Ive had moderate success playing solo so far.

08-16-2009, 11:09 PM	#32
Ghryphen Officer PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: WA, USA Posts: 4,733 WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? I played two games in complete failure. I'm going to be someone's stat fodder. __________________ The Hounds of Zeus \| Allied Tribal Forces

08-17-2009, 05:33 AM	#33
Stoke Seahorse PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina Old Folks Home Age: 57 Posts: 4,041 WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? I saw where the Iggles had you down 7-0 in the 2nd last nite... I didnt check back after that. I lost in overtime to the Cowpukes but spanked the Patriots and the Dolphins pretty hard yesterday. There were a couple of questionable things that happened during the ass whipping I took from Silver though. He runs a fumble back almost the whole length of the field only to have the call reversed. Then I clearly was in the end zone but the refs decided that I never crossed the plane. Bastards.

08-17-2009, 05:51 AM	#34
SilverTalon Magniloquent PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a van, down by the river Age: 44 Posts: 3,361 Xbox Live Leaderboard: 16^th WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? The reversal was probably correct, because it seemed like he was down before the red fumble thing came up. The bug where I still got credit for the TD on the recap was amusing though...I wonder if that actual impacts the results tho since it's happened twice (tho in both games it was a matter of academics). The real bitch of that "no TD" was that it was 4th down and I agree, you got robbed...it looked like he fell into the end zone well before anything hit the ground. Wouldn't have mattered of course, but you should have had a lower margin of defeat than Skillet had. I don't know why I'm helping you all beat my ass (Skillet was literally one play from victory on his last attempt), but here's some things that have helped me be successful: Long passes are a good way to lose normally. Keep your routes short and to the point. Only throw the long ball when you know you have a pattern that will work. Mis-matches are very important for passing. Skillet got gutted because the Eagles are difficult to match up with across the board. Know which of your players is better at their job than their opponent. For the Eagles, this is the RBs and their third and fourth receivers. This is generally who I'm looking for on patterns. My #1 and #2 ranked receivers are much harder to throw the ball to since they have the best corners on them. Even though you may have 4-5 receivers on a play, pick two...preferably on the same side of the field. Scope the one you think is most likely to be open, if he looks covered dump it off to the other. If both are covered, throw it away or scramble. As you get better, you might be able to include a third receiver. Looking across the field for receivers is a good way to take sacks. Just like the real NFL, you only have about 5-6 seconds to make your throw. It's there or it isn't. Adjust at the line, it makes you brutal to play against. See a blitz coming? Hot route a receiver to a slant or a post and burn it big. Skillet finally figured out to play dime against you? Switch to a run and blast through the DBs. I expect to sustain multiple losses now. Also, here's how I THINK our little group is shaping up: Silver - Los Eagles Gryphon - Seachickens Stoke - Panties Dane - Vikings or Dolphins most likely (although picking an AFC team will make for a lonely and boring season methinks) CB - Falcons Skillet - ??? Saints? So the NFC South looks to be hotly contested (read: people want to play Stoke twice)...the rest not-so-much __________________ "But there's no sense crying over every mistake, You just keep on trying till you run out of cake"

08-17-2009, 06:15 AM	#35
Stoke Seahorse PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina Old Folks Home Age: 57 Posts: 4,041 WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? I find that if the name of the play contains the word SLANT, I have a higher completion percentage.

08-17-2009, 06:28 AM	#36
SilverTalon Magniloquent PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a van, down by the river Age: 44 Posts: 3,361 Xbox Live Leaderboard: 16^th WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? Until your opponent has a press blitz going. Disrupts the timing and puts too much pressure on the QB to be reliable. Slants are timing routes, so jamming the receivers can really disrupt it. Problem is that it's a gamble like all blitzes. If they miss the jam they'll be horribly out of position and if the QB connects it's a 20+ yard gain. There's some zone coverages that are effective too, but you really have to commit to stopping the slant for it to work (Note: this is an excellent idea against the Eagles when I'm playing them. I run quick slants from 3-4 different formations and hot route them often because they are a PITA to defend against).

08-17-2009, 08:28 AM	#37
CannonBall Celebrated Pooper PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hoover, AL Age: 52 Posts: 1,294 Xbox Live Leaderboard: 8^th WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? The 360 Elite is rumored to be in for a price reduction on 8/31. I'll pick it up then. __________________ Cannonball - All Hail The Alliance "We are all friends here, let's not point fingers!"

08-17-2009, 11:32 AM	#39
SilverTalon Magniloquent PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a van, down by the river Age: 44 Posts: 3,361 Xbox Live Leaderboard: 16^th WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? Variations of slants is pretty much all I ran against you and skillet with the occasional dump-off to a RB.

08-17-2009, 06:01 PM	#40
Stoke Seahorse PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina Old Folks Home Age: 57 Posts: 4,041 WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? I played some random online person a bit ago. I suck enough that during the game, he was sending me vulgar trash talking messages. Stupid 13 year olds.....

08-18-2009, 04:26 AM	#43
Danerune Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 574 Xbox Live Leaderboard: 6^th WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? I will be taking on all challengers tonight my gamertag is Jim Danks. This sounds fun yay! Last edited by Ghryphen; 08-18-2009 at 11:23 AM. Reason: fixed

08-18-2009, 05:46 AM	#45
SilverTalon Magniloquent PlanetSide Characters Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a van, down by the river Age: 44 Posts: 3,361 Xbox Live Leaderboard: 16^th WoW Characters	Re: ATF Madden? I'll be trying to set up the franchise tonight...so we'll see how that goes.